User talk:MargaretRDonald/Archive 1

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Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 04:58, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Pinging the taxonomists

Hello Margaret! Pinging the whole Wikidata taxonomy group can be done by adding the code string {{Ping project|Taxonomy}} to a message. Kind regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 12:36, 30 July 2019 (UTC).

Thanks @Tommy Kronkvist: MargaretRDonald (talk) 22:37, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Quickstatements

My watchlist has lit up with your contributions - it looks like you got it working well. Congrats. --99of9 (talk) 09:00, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

@99of9: I had been going to thank you, when it was all complete.. It is wonderful to now know (partially) how to use quick statements.... I am still trying to get the whole batch up but so far have not been successful in my efforts. And you will be interested to know that some of the Australian botanist abbreviations used by APNI have not yet found their way into IPNI as author records, So I have to do some hunting to do to get them into wikidata as something more than just initials, surname and author abbreviation. (Miles more work to do just to complete this simple task.) Thanks, so much, Toby. Just fabulous. MargaretRDonald (talk) 18:39, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Authorship

Hi! I observed you do not use ex taxon author (P697) in a correct way. Last example. APNI gives this correct as "R.Br. ex Hook. (1843)". Regards. --Succu (talk) 06:31, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks @Succu: for letting me know. (That gives me a bit of work to do, correcting them.) But I do have code which I will modify to make the corrections..... MargaretRDonald (talk) 06:55, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Succu:. On the ex author front, I have corrected the error you noted but so far only for binomials with APNI ids. MargaretRDonald (talk) 12:20, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

OK. Thx! --Succu (talk) 13:57, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Something went wrong

Hi! Please see here. Probably there are more mistakes. Look at this report. --Succu (talk) 06:26, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Something did indeed go wrong. Thank you for both of these, @Succu:. I am working through the list of violations of Plant List, but have not yet finished. However, I have not yet had a chance to look at how I managed to do this. Thanks again for your help. MargaretRDonald (talk) 11:09, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Have worked out what the problem was... But I will need to correct the observed errors by hand. MargaretRDonald (talk) 12:16, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Succu: I have now corrected (I think) by hand those errors of the kind: * gcc-100314: Athanasia quinquedentata (Q15588519), Athanasia quinquedentata subsp. rigens (Q66091337), Athanasia quinquedentata subsp. quinquedentata (Q81933001) of which there were 119. Some "duplicate" names (and not quite duplicate names) I left. Please update me with the next report as I may not have managed to catch them all. MargaretRDonald (talk) 21:29, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Q87135173

Q87135173 has an invalid ORCID iD, and no other data, so I nominated it for deletion. Then I noticed that you created it and it has your own name... Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:43, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing: Yes, I added it in the spirit of wikicite to add an author rather than an author string to various papers. Happy to have it deleted howerver. I actually thought I had added several other ids. The orcid id is mine and was used but not findable since I now have no institutional email... ) MargaretRDonald (talk) 10:50, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

You added them to Q61657080, which the newer item duplcates; I've merged them. You may wish to add your Wikimedia user name. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:07, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the merge, @Pigsonthewing:. I have been trying to start to use Scholia. Didn't realise I had managed to achieve this!! MargaretRDonald (talk) 11:14, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Pigsonthewing: There are several wikidata items that I have managed unwittingly to create and would dearly like to delete. How do I propose an item for deletion (or delete an item) for example Q89663481? Thanks for your help. MargaretRDonald (talk) 20:34, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

List them at Wikidata:Requests for deletions; to do this easily, add the "RequestDeletion" script, under preferences/ gadgets. However, if they are duplicates, merge them instead. Shout if you need help. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:18, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks immensely Andy. @Pigsonthewing: Now done. MargaretRDonald (talk) 02:40, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

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QuickStatements

To add a source you do not need to remove existing statements. Once a statement to add is found, a source will be added to the existing item.--GZWDer (talk) 00:41, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, @GZWDer: Unfortunately, I had done a series of quick statements which added basionyms and " stated in" as a qualifier and not as a source, and hence had to delete my newly created basionym item. MargaretRDonald (talk) 00:55, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

See also [1] if you want to revert your previous edit.--GZWDer (talk) 00:57, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks @GZWDer: I have now reverted a couple of edits. However, in this case it was a bit messy trying to do that... and was simpler and was a way which would capture all previous errors to resubmit with a corrected complete spreadsheet. MargaretRDonald (talk) 01:38, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

ATRF ID edits

Hi Margaret, this EditGroup seems to be adding duplicate taxon names to taxa rather than the ATRF ID which it claims to be. Can you have a look? --Canley (talk) 02:32, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks @Canley: I thought it had a "do not override" bit in it. Which I hoped meant that if found something was not touched. Damn it all. Some work to do. MargaretRDonald (talk) 02:36, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

You might be able to ask an admin to undo the group. Let me know if you have any issues and I can try to clean it up in QuickStatements or something. --Canley (talk) 02:41, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi@Canley: I am currently checking them all by hand, which is not the major task it might seem to be. If I can't fix it, I'll give a call for help. MargaretRDonald (talk) 02:52, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi@Canley: Hmm... Problem much greater than I thought. There were 2861 edits of which some (of the order of <100) were new items. But I think the best thing would be to destroy the edit globally and destroy any hand edits I have done since to attempt to rectify the matter. So yes, pull in an admin... Cheers, MargaretRDonald (talk) 03:02, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

OK, I've requested a rollback at Wikidata:Requests for deletions#Edit group OR/14b3a99cec7. --Canley (talk) 03:13, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

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Duplicates

Lactifluus stenophyllus (Q105057327), Lactifluus stenophyllus (Q105057326) en Lactifluus stenophyllus (Q105057325) refer to exactly the same item. And this is just one set, I've seen many more like such triplets. I'm afraid you will spend a lot of time on cleaning this up.... Edoderoo (talk) 08:21, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Australian Fungi ID

Hey, It looks like you are adding two values for this identifier. Is that intentional and if it is then we need to adjust constraint according to this. Also does this property added to species that are in Australia only or they have data about species from other parts of the world too? ‐‐1997kB (talk) 12:25, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

@1997kB: No, it's not intentional. I have asked for reverts for some of my quick statement batches. And I am currently setting up a query to hunt duplicates down and merge them.... On the other hand, there is something you may be able to fix. Currently, the identifier insists that a taxon needs to be identified as coming from Australia. However, a taxon having this identifier may not necessarily be native to Australia (Australasia). It may have been introduced. MargaretRDonald (talk) 18:35, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Spotted that someone has removed the constraint that the Australian fungus ID must specify a country for the taxon. MargaretRDonald (talk) 19:58, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Items about taxa should not use country (P17). --Succu (talk) 19:37, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

@Succu: Couldn't agree more. MargaretRDonald (talk) 20:01, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Your addions of authorship are incomplete, e.g. Agaricus melaniceps Cooke & Massee (Q105048593) ---Succu (talk) 20:49, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

You created hundreds of duplicate items. Please check Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/P225#"Unique_value"_violations. (Agaricus xxx, etc.) --Succu (talk) 16:34, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Not sure what went wrong, but around 8,000 species items you created are missing it's parent taxon. A little bit frustrating. :( --Succu (talk) 19:02, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I am working on tidying this all up, but it's a slow business. (My problem stemmed from mistakenly thinking 1) that the taxa belonged in the Fungi kingdom and 2) that I could identify fungi Qitems using P171* and the fungi kingdom.) MargaretRDonald (talk) 23:16, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

== taxon author citation (P6507) ==

Hi! taxon author citation (P6507) should include a year too. --Succu (talk) 21:24, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Succu: I thought it had to follow of the citation rule of the appropriate code. I took it directly (that is with no change or programming) from a field named ("scientificNameAuthorship") in the downloaded data from FNI (FNI-names-2021-01-15-5421.csv). This database does include year but not as part of the author citation, so it seems the Council of Heads of Australasian Herbaria follows the same rules for fungi authorship citation as for plants (which do not include the year). I am very happy to leave any fungus Qitem having the property taxon author citation (P6507) and which does include year as found, but I think it is helpful to have (a possibly partial) field rather than none, as it signals whether or not the taxon has a basionym.... MargaretRDonald (talk) 01:13, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes, according to the Code no year is required. The examples of the property suggest otherwise. Langermannia candida (Q49550421) (merged by me) has now two values. --Succu (talk) 17:34, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

[WMF Board of Trustees - Call for feedback: Community Board seats] Meetings with the Wikidata community

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Queensland Biota Mix'n'Match

Hi Margaret. Our catalogue is finally working. We did everything right, but for some reason it didn't scan properly back then, so I asked it to scrape again yesterday, and it seems to have worked. --99of9 (talk)

@99of9: Brilliant. Queensland might finally get on the map with respect to biota. Far too often it has not been easy to show that a plant or animal is found in QLD. MargaretRDonald (talk) 22:02, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

MycoBank

Hi! Regarding this. My bot makes use of this list. I plan to create items for missing legetimate taxa. --Succu (talk) 05:31, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

No worries @Succu: I plan to too. (It is a great pity nonetheless that the IDs differ.) MargaretRDonald (talk) 21:49, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

There is no problem with MycoBank taxon name ID (P962) regarding this dataset. My bot is running… --Succu (talk) 21:04, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Sphaeroderma

Hi! I suppose it might be obvious if you saw my recent edits to Sphaeroderma (Q108030141), but there are two "Sphaeroderma"s, one a beetle genus and one a fungi genus, both of which you ended up combining in that item months ago unfortunately. I have split off the fungi genus data into a new item Sphaeroderma (Q108030141), just so you know. Monster Iestyn (talk) 07:07, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much @Monster Iestyn:. Very much appreciated. MargaretRDonald (talk) 22:49, 10 August 2021 (UTC)