Wikidata:Property proposal/podium finishes

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podium finishes[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Sports

   Done: podium finishes (P10648) (Talk and documentation)
Descriptionnumber of podium finishes a participant achieved
Representspodium finish (Q108887216)
Data typeNumber (not available yet)
Domainitem
Allowed valuespositive integers
Allowed unitsnone
Example 1Michael Schumacher (Q9671) → 155
Example 2Jackie Stewart (Q3188) → 43
Example 3Vasif Talibov (Q57549) → 1
Example 4Jim Clark (Q3137) → 32
Planned useAdd to all F1 drivers immediately, expanding to other motorsports series going forward
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)

Motivation[edit]

This is a common aggregate statistic in motorsports. Podium finishes are a discrete and widely cited statistic, making it perfect for a property. It cannot be reached by calculation reliably for several reasons: 1) The database of individual events is incomplete, thus counting the number of entities for which a driver finishes on the podium will not capture the correct total. 2) For many series, especially historically, detailed event records are incomplete (not just on WD, but in the public record in general), whereas aggregate counts are available in some sources. 3) Several sources only provide aggregate totals for a career or season, and not individual event details. Thus an aggregate podium finish total is necessary to capture this information. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 00:05, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

 Comment Michael Schumacher (Q9671) has 155 podium finishes, not 91. 91 is the number of wins. Jackie Stewart (Q3188) has 43 podium finishes, not 27 (the number of wins). UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 05:02, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]