Wikidata:Property proposal/Wikimedia Chat channel
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Wikimedia Chat channel
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic
Not done
| Description | Wikimedia Chat channel ID for this item |
|---|---|
| Represents | Wikimedia Chat (Q98843922) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | Wikimedia projects, user groups etc |
| Example 1 | Wikidata (Q2013) → wikidata |
| Example 2 | Portuguese Wikipedia (Q11921) → wikipedia-em-portugues |
| Example 3 | Abstract Wikipedia (Q96807071) → abstract-wikipedia |
| Source | https://chat.wmcloud.org/ |
| Formatter URL | https://chat.wmcloud.org/wikimedia/channels/$1 |
NMaia (talk) 23:47, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Discussion
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Oppose IM channel URL (P8009) should be sufficient. --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 18:29, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Tinker Bell: Thanks for mentioning this, I didn't know this property existed. But how would you use this property in the examples I gave? Looking at how that property is currently being used, I'm confused. NMaia (talk) 23:28, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- @NMaia: Example 1: Wikidata (Q2013)IM channel URL (P8009)https://chat.wmcloud.org/wikimedia/channels/wikidata
protocol (P2700)Mattermost (Q55478510). --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 01:18, 17 September 2020 (UTC) - I feel uneasy using that property this way. It's clearly intended for XMPP-like protocols, which is why using this doesn't produce an external URL. Having a property for Wikimedia Chat really wouldn't be the end of the world. NMaia (talk) 11:43, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
- « using this doesn't produce an external URL » → Wrong. « xmpp:kde@conference.kdetalk.net » is an external URL. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 19:43, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Visite fortuitement prolongée: What I meant is that the quoted property is of a string datatype, not external url. NMaia (talk) 01:13, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
- Understood. Need to change yhe type of P8009. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 13:30, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
- @NMaia, Visite fortuitement prolongée: Try to store an URI like "xmpp:gajim@conference.gajim.org" in any item using URL (P2699): URL datatype will not let you doing so, I don't know why this happens. --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 08:32, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
- I created Wikidata:Contact the development team#2020-09 URL datatype. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:24, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
- Indeed, at the moment xmpp is not supported by the URL datatype. We could fix that if needed. If you would like to request P8009 to be changed from string to external id, please make sure that you have a consensus (for example by starting a discussion on the property's talk page). Feel free to ping me again when you have concrete requests for us :) Lea Lacroix (WMDE) (talk) 10:21, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
- I created Wikidata:Contact the development team#2020-09 URL datatype. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:24, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
- @NMaia, Visite fortuitement prolongée: Try to store an URI like "xmpp:gajim@conference.gajim.org" in any item using URL (P2699): URL datatype will not let you doing so, I don't know why this happens. --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 08:32, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
- Understood. Need to change yhe type of P8009. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 13:30, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Visite fortuitement prolongée: What I meant is that the quoted property is of a string datatype, not external url. NMaia (talk) 01:13, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
- « using this doesn't produce an external URL » → Wrong. « xmpp:kde@conference.kdetalk.net » is an external URL. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 19:43, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
- I feel uneasy using that property this way. It's clearly intended for XMPP-like protocols, which is why using this doesn't produce an external URL. Having a property for Wikimedia Chat really wouldn't be the end of the world. NMaia (talk) 11:43, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
- @NMaia: Example 1: Wikidata (Q2013)IM channel URL (P8009)https://chat.wmcloud.org/wikimedia/channels/wikidata
- @Tinker Bell: Thanks for mentioning this, I didn't know this property existed. But how would you use this property in the examples I gave? Looking at how that property is currently being used, I'm confused. NMaia (talk) 23:28, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
Not done See above. (｀・ω・´) (talk) 09:44, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
