Wikidata:Property proposal/TeatralRo ID

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TeatralRo play/theater ID[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

   Done: teatral.ro ID (P9202) (Talk and documentation)
Descriptionidentifier on the www.teatral.ro website
RepresentsTeatral.ro (Q105002945)
Data typeExternal identifier
Template parameterexternal_links; id_teatralro
Domainplay (Q2430899), performing arts production (Q43099500), spectacle (Q224530), theatre company (Q11812394)
Allowed values(piesa|teatru)\/[a-z\d]+(-[a-z\d]+)*
Example 1TaRaTaTam (Q90890307)                                                      piesa/dale-noastre-teatrul-national
Example 2Uppercase Print (Q88384988)                                               piesa/tipografic-majuscul-teatrul-odeon
Example 3Odeon Theatre (Q559214)                                                    teatru/teatrul-odeon
Example 4National Theatre Bucharest "Ion Luca Caragiale" (Q1138828)teatru/teatrul-national
Sourcehttps://www.teatral.ro
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd][en.wikt][fr.wikt].
Mix'n'matchunimported
Planned useas authority control and identifier: Wikidata property to identify organizations (Q21745557)
Number of IDs in sourcehundreds plays + 36 theatre companies
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.teatral.ro/$1
CountryRomania (Q218)
See alsoAlternativa Teatral work ID (P5808)
Applicable "stated in"-valueTeatral.ro (Q105002945)
Type constraint – instance oforganization (Q43229)
Type constraint – subclass ofaudiovisual work (Q2431196)
Single-value constraintyes
Distinct-values constraintyes
Wikidata projectWikiProject Theatre (Q14942918), WikiProject Romania (Q11509515) - {{Romania properties}}

Motivation[edit]

Property for theatre companies, theatrical productions, stage actors, authors & other cast members included in teatral.ro, a theater database in Romanian. Coagulans (talk) 10:54, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Split: Property for theatre companies, theatrical productions included in teatral.ro, a theater database in Romanian.- Coagulans (talk) 20:15, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

@Coagulans: ✓ Done teatral.ro ID (P9202)Eihel (talk) 05:31, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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TeatralRo artist ID[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

   Not done
Descriptionidentifier on the www.teatral.ro website
RepresentsTeatral.ro (Q105002945)
Data typeExternal identifier
Template parameterexternal_links; id_teatralro
Domainhuman (Q5), actor (Q33999), author (Q482980), theatre designer (Q26869657), cast member (Q3297652)
Allowed values[a-z\d]+(-[a-z\d]+)*
Example 1Albert Camus (Q34670)     albert-camus
Example 2Dorina Lazăr (Q12726962)   → dorina-lazar
Example 3Eugène Ionesco (Q46706)eugene-ionesco
Example 41-Q Sapro (Q105474889)1-q-sapro
Sourcehttps://www.teatral.ro
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd][en.wikt][fr.wikt].
Mix'n'matchto be imported
Planned useas authority control and identifier: Wikidata property for authority control for people (Q19595382), Wikidata property for authority control for artists (Q55653847)
Number of IDs in sourcethousands
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.teatral.ro/artist/$1
CountryRomania (Q218)
See alsoAlternativa Teatral person ID (P5807)
Applicable "stated in"-valueTeatral.ro (Q105002945)
Type constraint – instance ofhuman (Q5)
Single-value constraintyes
Distinct-values constraintyes
Wikidata projectWikiProject Theatre (Q14942918), WikiProject Romania (Q11509515) - {{Romania properties}}

Motivation[edit]

Property for stage actors, authors & other cast members included in teatral.ro, a theater database in Romanian. - Coagulans (talk) 20:15, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

Why similar identifiers? There are about two different properties. - Coagulans (talk) 06:59, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The ids come from the same place, so why not the same ids. Putting a more precise RegEx also prevents putting bad ids (as vandals like to do for example). 1 property, then 2, but not 3 ?! But this is not a blocking criterion for a creation. —Eihel (talk) 03:24, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Not 3 PP, because only the theatre companies in the capital of the country are listed (36). - Coagulans (talk) 06:47, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Initial oppose @Coagulans: I might miss a point (for which I am sorry), but can’t we slightly modify teatral.ro ID (P9202) to handle artists as well? --Emu (talk)
    Well, there was only 1 proposal for the 3 entities and it worked. The reply provided does not satisfy me: if there are so few ids why make several proposals? Precisely, this is yet another reason to return to the initial proposal. —Eihel (talk) 19:33, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    @Coagulans, Eihel:  Not done Lack of consensus for creation and clear alternative: I changed teatral.ro ID (P9202) to accommodate people. If you are unhappy with this: Remember that proposal discussions end without prejudice, so a new proposal can always be made if the need arises. --Emu (talk) 17:49, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ok. As for ids quantity, here there is a split request for a similar PP. - Coagulans (talk) 16:49, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]