Wikidata:Property proposal/SNK ID (2)

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SNK ID[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

   Done: SNK ID (P9807) (Talk and documentation)
Descriptionauthority control for the Slovak National Library
RepresentsSNK authority file (Q107922512)
Data typeExternal identifier
Allowed values[1-9]\d{0,6}
Example 1Karel Havlíček Borovský (Q452084) → 172129
Example 2FC VSS Košice (Q693909) → 106815
Example 3Košice Region (Q1785845) → 86234
Example 4clay (Q42302) → 178364
Sourcehttps://autority.snk.sk/cgi-bin/koha/opac-authorities-home.pl
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned useMix'n'match
Number of IDs in source94023 (growing)
Formatter URLhttps://autority.snk.sk/cgi-bin/koha/opac-authoritiesdetail.pl?marc=1&authid=$1
See alsoSlovak National Library (VIAF) ID (P7700)
Vladimir Alexiev Jonathan Groß Andy Mabbett Jneubert Sic19 Wikidelo ArthurPSmith PKM Ettorerizza Fuzheado Daniel Mietchen Iwan.Aucamp Epìdosis Sotho Tal Ker Bargioni Carlobia Pablo Busatto Matlin Msuicat Uomovariabile Silva Selva 1-Byte Alessandra.Moi CamelCaseNick Songceci moz AhavaCohen Kolja21 RShigapov Jason.nlw MasterRus21thCentury Newt713 Pierre Tribhou Powerek38 Ahatd JordanTimothyJames Silviafanti Back ache AfricanLibrarian M.roszkowski Rhagfyr 沈澄心 MrBenjo S.v.Mering

Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control As of now, Wikidata stores in Slovak National Library (VIAF) ID (P7700) the IDs (tag 001) sent by Slovak National Library (Q620899) to VIAF (e.g. https://viaf.org/processed/SKMASNL%7Cvtls011643968); these vtls IDs, at the moment of the proposal (December 2019), were used both in the SNK website (autority.snk.sk) and in VIAF; however, already in March 2020 it was noticed that SNK website didn't use them anymore, so from that time these vtls IDs are used only in VIAF and seem to have been completely dropped by SNK. A previous proposal (September 2019) tried to use Koha IDs, which were used in SNK website (autority.snk.sk), but the proponent asked SNK about these IDs and was informed that these IDs were not permanent, so dropped the proposal; the use of Koha IDs was proposed again in March 2020, so @Bargioni: contacted SNK in May 2020 and was informed that these IDs were still not permanent, so there were no steps forward. A few days ago Bargioni contacted SNK again and was informed that Koha IDs have finally become permanent, so I think this property will very much help in increasing the coverage of Slovakia in Wikidata; Bargioni is already elaborating a Mix'n'match catalog for the IDs of humans. --Epìdosis 11:45, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I list all the users involved in previous discussions:

--Epìdosis 11:50, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

@Eihel: Sorry, forgotten "marc=1" in URL formatter, now added. I propose to create a new property, leaving the old Slovak National Library (VIAF) ID (P7700) as it is both because it represents data still present in VIAF and because it has nearly 1500 uses. Some very similar cases: NSZL (VIAF) ID (P951) and NSZL name authority ID (P3133); Vatican Library ID (former scheme) (P1017) and Vatican Library VcBA ID (P8034). --Epìdosis 13:21, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Jura1: I agree, I would use the same practice as NSZL, so probably Property:P770 "SNK ID (VIAF)" and this one "SNK ID", with further disambiguation in the description. --Epìdosis 09:57, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I guess that's better than no differentiation, but VIAF isn't really the name of the identifier. --- Jura 10:13, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Jura1: Maybe a bit better "SKMASNL ID (VIAF)" (since SKMASNL is the code that VIAF assigns to SNK) and "SNK ID". --Epìdosis 11:36, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"(from VIAF)"? --- Jura 08:02, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Could be OK. --Epìdosis 20:20, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
IMHO that's too VIAF-specific (it's expressed as "code... VIAF component". I'm not aware of any VIAF-component prop to use such code as its name. --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 13:12, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Vladimir Alexiev: I agree, example edited. --Epìdosis 13:34, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Epìdosis, Sotho Tal Ker, Jneubert, Jura1, Vladimir Alexiev: @Kolja21, Eihel, Bargioni, Jeanjung212, Jklamo: ✓ Done SNK ID (P9807) --Alexmar983 (talk) 13:02, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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