Wikidata:Property proposal/Namesakes

namesakes[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

Not done

Description	an entity named after the subject; the reciprocal property of P138
Represents	namesakes (Q65971429)
Data type	Item
Domain	Any item
Allowed values	Q numbers
Example 1	Carl Frelinghuysen Gould (Q5040176) → Gould Hall (Q98399994)
Example 2	Effie I. Raitt (Q98430028) → Raitt Hall (Q98429924)
Example 3	Henry Suzzallo (Q15525116) → Suzzallo Library (Q7651462)
Example 4	PACCAR (Q1477661) → PACCAR Hall (Q98447438)
Example 5	Carl Schurz English (Q5749323) → Carl S. English, Jr., Botanical Gardens (Q5040751)
Example 6	Jon Runstad (Q98399882) → University of Washington Runstad Department of Real Estate (Q98399870)
Example 7	Jon Runstad (Q98399882) → Wright Runstad & Company (Q98399893)
Example 8	William Boeing (Q214826) → University of Washington William E. Boeing Department of Aeronautics and Astronautics (Q97997674)
Example 9	William Boeing (Q214826) → Boeing (Q66)
Example 10	Bill Gates (Q5284) → Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation (Q655286)
Example 11	Melinda Gates (Q463877) → Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation (Q655286)
Example 12	John F. Kennedy (Q9696) → John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts (Q1631981)
Example 13	T-Mobile US (Q3511885) → T-Mobile Park (Q1193117)
Planned use	adding the namesake building on the University of Washington campus to the Wikidata item for the person whose name was given to the building
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
See also	named after (P138): entity or event that inspired the subject's name, or namesake (in at least one language). Qualifier "applies to name" (P5168) can be used to indicate which one Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/23#Named in his honor (2014) Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/28#it_gave_its_name_to (2014) Wikidata:Property proposal/Eponym (2017)

Motivation[edit]

Wikidata has property P138, which is used to state the entity that a subject is named after, but it lacks the reciprocal property. We are creating items for buildings on the University of Washington campus and in those items we are including the named after property when appropriate. We would also like to give the reciprocal relationship in the item for the person whose name was given to a building. UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 21:19, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

Weak oppose This may be too many.--GZWDer (talk) 23:24, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose Sounds initially like a good idea, however I am not a big fan of reciprocal properties for 1:n relationships, as these can be derived from querying the data easily. Just means that there are now 2 places to maintain the data and for some items there will be very long lists eg George Washington (Q23) and Vladimir Lenin (Q1394) (285 items so far). --Hannes Röst (talk) 01:07, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Hannes. Mahir256 (talk) 02:05, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral Might be interesting but the existing property looks to be consistent in the way A>>>B, not B>>>A. Bouzinac (talk) 20:22, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose No need for such an inverse property. ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:25, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Use different from (P1889) for actual namesakes if there is a real prospect of confusion, or inadvertent merging. Oppose stated use as inverse for named after (P138): redundant. -- Jheald (talk) 03:00, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]