Wikidata:Property proposal/ITF-identificatiecode voor speler 2020

ITF player ID 2020

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Sports

   Done: ITF player ID 2020 (P8618) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for a tennis player at the International Tennis Federation (ITF) website as of 2020
Represents	refer to discussion at talk page of ITF player ID before 2020 (archived) (P599)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	tennis players: occupation (P106)=tennis player (Q10833314)
Allowed values	player-name/800number/ccc with ccc=country code
Example 1	Steffi Graf (Q11662) → steffi-graf/800178014/ger
Example 2	Rod Laver (Q105550) → rod-laver/800173355/aus
Example 3	Irina-Camelia Begu (Q239751) → irina-camelia-begu/800266692/rou
Example 4	Édouard Roger-Vasselin (Q274441) → edouard-roger-vasselin/800221237/fra
Source	https://www.itftennis.com/
Planned use	gradually enter the ID for all tennis players (male/female)
Number of IDs in source	more than 7000
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	https://www.itftennis.com/en/players/$1
See also	ITF player ID before 2020 (archived) (P599) which is not to be replaced, but will *remain active*

Motivation

Copy/paste from P599 talk page:

I suggest the creation of an additional property, to be called something like 'ITF player ID 2020'. Its value needs to have the format helena-vildova/800647823/cze according to my belief. The remainder of the URL (/wt/s/overview/) turns out to be unneeded to get at the player's profile page. The bulk of the players, enjoying a working ITF redirect on the old number, won't need this; at least not straightaway. The new property can be used for new players, for old players with unknown old number, and for old players where the redirect does not work, such as Helena Vildová (Q3129670). Perhaps we can migrate the bulk later.

Additional clarification
The plan is as follows: the existing ITF player ID before 2020 (archived) (P599) keeps its URL unchanged (https://www.itftennis.com/procircuit/players/player/profile.aspx?playerid=$1); the second property needs to have the new ITF URL (https://www.itftennis.com/en/players/$1). This allows the tennis community to have a migration period in which the new player id's are gradually entered. Highest priority will have those players who are relatively new, and have no (known) old id – specifying their new id makes their ITF profile page at long last available. At the same time, the thousands (>7000) of existing players don't lose their access through the old id (which is fortunately redirected by ITF). It is crucial that the old id remains operational, because several wikipedia's depend on the P599 property to provide the ITF profile page link on their tennis players' wikipedia articles. These include: nl:Sjabloon:Standaardlinks tennisser, en:Template:Sports links, fr:Modèle:Bases sport, de:Vorlage:ITF, and several other languages. Individual language wikipedia's will make an addition to their template, showing the new link if specified, otherwise the old link. After this has been done, the international tennis community has ample time to edit the wikidata item of existing players, adding the new id to it. (There is some evidence here (in Dutch) that no automated script is possible; as a consequence every player must be treated manually.) Strong recommendation: leave the old id intact; don't remove it. It will forever remain useful to search the old version of the ITF profile page at the Internet Archiver – this is crucial to find player data that is no longer shown on the current ITF player profile page (such as birth date and birth place, and a few others), for which often a source reference is still required, either on wikidata or on some language wikipedia. Pommée (talk) 20:20, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

Initial talk: here at P599. Pommée (talk) 20:38, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

 Support - we need time to get the old format converted to the new format. I tried to write a script to get the converted URL, but had no succes, else I would fill this by script. It seems to be a manual job, and this new property is going to give us time to convert the old value to the new one. We talk about 2000+ players, experience is that this will take a few months. Edoderoo (talk) 05:03, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

 Support --Wolbo (talk) 22:48, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

 Support ---MisterSynergy (talk) 07:14, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Support Stryn (talk) 16:20, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@Pommée, Edoderoo, Wolbo, MisterSynergy, Stryn:  Done Now ITF player ID 2020 (P8618). --Lymantria (talk) 13:47, 18 September 2020 (UTC)